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		<title>By: Lily</title>
		<link>http://lilycollison.com/2010/01/22/thalidomide/comment-page-1/#comment-1702</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grannymar, every day&#039;s delay in these 32 people getting justice is so wrong. Why &#039;our&#039; government won&#039;t listen and act ... 

Steph, obviously I wasn&#039;t a blog reader back in 2008. I hadn&#039;t realised you too had written on this subject. We definitely sing from the same hymn-sheet on this subject

Ivo, welcome to the blog. From reading your comments and the various links, I understand you are in the Philippines, living with the effects of thalidomide. 

I can understand why you would be angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grannymar, every day&#8217;s delay in these 32 people getting justice is so wrong. Why &#8216;our&#8217; government won&#8217;t listen and act &#8230; </p>
<p>Steph, obviously I wasn&#8217;t a blog reader back in 2008. I hadn&#8217;t realised you too had written on this subject. We definitely sing from the same hymn-sheet on this subject</p>
<p>Ivo, welcome to the blog. From reading your comments and the various links, I understand you are in the Philippines, living with the effects of thalidomide. </p>
<p>I can understand why you would be angry.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivo Cerckel</title>
		<link>http://lilycollison.com/2010/01/22/thalidomide/comment-page-1/#comment-1699</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivo Cerckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I almost forgot:

This comment has, like all comments, been deleted since it was posted:
Thalidomide was definitely known in the year 1938 and [its] defects were noted in Phoenix, AZ (USA) in a medical journal that year. It was known as a cure for {Hansen]’s Disease and made by [RICHARDSON-MERRELL Co.] in [Cincinnati], OH (USA). I don’t know what action was taken, but a young female doctor named Frances Oldham Kersey (or Kelsey) recognized its dangers. Theodore, Princeton, WV/USA
(comment under From The Times April 4, 2008 Thalidomide: 50 years on victims unite to seek more compensation Nigel Hawkes, Health Editor
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article3671815.ece

Now:
CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM EFFECTS OF THALIDOMIDE 
J Pharmacol Exp Ther, October 1961 
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/134/1/60.full.pdf
(one must pay to read the article for 24 hours)

This article of the Journal of Pharmacology ET says that its authors
Kuhn and Van Maanen are working for the
Department of Pharmacology, 
The Wm S. Merrell Co. Div. of RICHARDSON-MERRELL [capitalisation mine], Inc., 
Cincinnati, Ohio. 

The note on the first page of the article, page 60 of the volume of the Journal, says that: 
Kevadon is the trademark of The Wm. S. Merrell Co., Division of Richardson-Merrell, Inc., 
and 
CONTERGAN [capitalisation mine] is the trademark of the National Drug Co. Division of RICHARDSON-MERRELL [capitalisation mine ]Inc., for their brands of thalidomide.

I thought Contergan was the name used for thalidomide in ... Germany.

And Richardson-Merrell dared still to say that in October 1961?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I almost forgot:</p>
<p>This comment has, like all comments, been deleted since it was posted:<br />
Thalidomide was definitely known in the year 1938 and [its] defects were noted in Phoenix, AZ (USA) in a medical journal that year. It was known as a cure for {Hansen]’s Disease and made by [RICHARDSON-MERRELL Co.] in [Cincinnati], OH (USA). I don’t know what action was taken, but a young female doctor named Frances Oldham Kersey (or Kelsey) recognized its dangers. Theodore, Princeton, WV/USA<br />
(comment under From The Times April 4, 2008 Thalidomide: 50 years on victims unite to seek more compensation Nigel Hawkes, Health Editor<br />
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article3671815.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article3671815.ece</a></p>
<p>Now:<br />
CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM EFFECTS OF THALIDOMIDE<br />
J Pharmacol Exp Ther, October 1961<br />
<a href="http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/134/1/60.full.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/134/1/60.full.pdf</a><br />
(one must pay to read the article for 24 hours)</p>
<p>This article of the Journal of Pharmacology ET says that its authors<br />
Kuhn and Van Maanen are working for the<br />
Department of Pharmacology,<br />
The Wm S. Merrell Co. Div. of RICHARDSON-MERRELL [capitalisation mine], Inc.,<br />
Cincinnati, Ohio. </p>
<p>The note on the first page of the article, page 60 of the volume of the Journal, says that:<br />
Kevadon is the trademark of The Wm. S. Merrell Co., Division of Richardson-Merrell, Inc.,<br />
and<br />
CONTERGAN [capitalisation mine] is the trademark of the National Drug Co. Division of RICHARDSON-MERRELL [capitalisation mine ]Inc., for their brands of thalidomide.</p>
<p>I thought Contergan was the name used for thalidomide in &#8230; Germany.</p>
<p>And Richardson-Merrell dared still to say that in October 1961?</p>
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		<title>By: Ivo Cerckel</title>
		<link>http://lilycollison.com/2010/01/22/thalidomide/comment-page-1/#comment-1698</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivo Cerckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I continue, this time with tears in the eyes.

Video why they needed thalidomide
Posted by Ivo Cerckel on September 27th, 2009
http://bphouse.com/honest_money/2009/09/27/video-why-they-needed-thalidomide/
SNIP
Watch this Canadian video.
Here’s why our Masters did it.
A B-word in the plural comes to mind.

De l’efficacité des prothèses
Date de diffusion : 21 février 1964
http://archives.radio-canada.ca/sante/sante_publique/dossiers/65-865/
UNSNIP

4 Responses to “Video why they needed thalidomide”
SNIP
1.	Ivo Cerckel Says: 
September 28th, 2009 at 09:19 
The video clearly says that (the effects of) thalidomide was (were) known since many years and certainly before 1957.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I continue, this time with tears in the eyes.</p>
<p>Video why they needed thalidomide<br />
Posted by Ivo Cerckel on September 27th, 2009<br />
<a href="http://bphouse.com/honest_money/2009/09/27/video-why-they-needed-thalidomide/" rel="nofollow">http://bphouse.com/honest_money/2009/09/27/video-why-they-needed-thalidomide/</a><br />
SNIP<br />
Watch this Canadian video.<br />
Here’s why our Masters did it.<br />
A B-word in the plural comes to mind.</p>
<p>De l’efficacité des prothèses<br />
Date de diffusion : 21 février 1964<br />
<a href="http://archives.radio-canada.ca/sante/sante_publique/dossiers/65-865/" rel="nofollow">http://archives.radio-canada.ca/sante/sante_publique/dossiers/65-865/</a><br />
UNSNIP</p>
<p>4 Responses to “Video why they needed thalidomide”<br />
SNIP<br />
1.	Ivo Cerckel Says:<br />
September 28th, 2009 at 09:19<br />
The video clearly says that (the effects of) thalidomide was (were) known since many years and certainly before 1957.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivo Cerckel</title>
		<link>http://lilycollison.com/2010/01/22/thalidomide/comment-page-1/#comment-1697</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivo Cerckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but Heidelberg and my father made too much of an anarchist of me.

The whistle on thalidomide was blown at a Düsseldorf congress of neurologists on 30 April - 01 May 1960.

Carmel was born in July 1962,
that’s more than TWENTY-SIX MONTHS later.

So more than SEVENTEEN MONTHS after the whistle, 
Carmel’s mother could still obtain thalidomide 
in chemist shops over the counter.

Why do we need guv’mint?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but Heidelberg and my father made too much of an anarchist of me.</p>
<p>The whistle on thalidomide was blown at a Düsseldorf congress of neurologists on 30 April &#8211; 01 May 1960.</p>
<p>Carmel was born in July 1962,<br />
that’s more than TWENTY-SIX MONTHS later.</p>
<p>So more than SEVENTEEN MONTHS after the whistle,<br />
Carmel’s mother could still obtain thalidomide<br />
in chemist shops over the counter.</p>
<p>Why do we need guv’mint?</p>
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		<title>By: Ivo Cerckel</title>
		<link>http://lilycollison.com/2010/01/22/thalidomide/comment-page-1/#comment-1695</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivo Cerckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whistle on thalidomide was blown at a Düsseldorf congress of neurologists on 30 April - 01 May 1960. Thalidomide was taken from the market only on 27 November 1961, that’s eighteen months later, not by the guv’mint which had allowed it in the first place, but by its manufacturer.
http://www.wdr.de/themen/gesundheit/pharmazie/contergan/chronik.jhtml?rubrikenstyle=contergan

At the end of the day, I wonder whether this is not the essence of Carmel’s story in the article about her struggle:
There were countless plaster casts made, prostheses, splints and braces fitted. No one listened when I tried to say that I preferred to use my own limbs. My mother understood but felt powerless to disagree with the so-called professionals.

That’s why they did it [at Heidelberg].

Témoignage thalidomide – Les Monstres de Heidelberg 
Originally posted by Ivo Cerckel on September 2nd, 2009 
http://bphouse.com/honest_money/etat-belge-assassin-softenon-no-good-and-evil-for-who-hence-thalidomide-i-am-a-thalidomide-monster-because-of-who-thalidomide-shame-non-compensation-thalidomide-victims-of-debt-driven-polit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whistle on thalidomide was blown at a Düsseldorf congress of neurologists on 30 April &#8211; 01 May 1960. Thalidomide was taken from the market only on 27 November 1961, that’s eighteen months later, not by the guv’mint which had allowed it in the first place, but by its manufacturer.<br />
<a href="http://www.wdr.de/themen/gesundheit/pharmazie/contergan/chronik.jhtml?rubrikenstyle=contergan" rel="nofollow">http://www.wdr.de/themen/gesundheit/pharmazie/contergan/chronik.jhtml?rubrikenstyle=contergan</a></p>
<p>At the end of the day, I wonder whether this is not the essence of Carmel’s story in the article about her struggle:<br />
There were countless plaster casts made, prostheses, splints and braces fitted. No one listened when I tried to say that I preferred to use my own limbs. My mother understood but felt powerless to disagree with the so-called professionals.</p>
<p>That’s why they did it [at Heidelberg].</p>
<p>Témoignage thalidomide – Les Monstres de Heidelberg<br />
Originally posted by Ivo Cerckel on September 2nd, 2009<br />
<a href="http://bphouse.com/honest_money/etat-belge-assassin-softenon-no-good-and-evil-for-who-hence-thalidomide-i-am-a-thalidomide-monster-because-of-who-thalidomide-shame-non-compensation-thalidomide-victims-of-debt-driven-polit/" rel="nofollow">http://bphouse.com/honest_money/etat-belge-assassin-softenon-no-good-and-evil-for-who-hence-thalidomide-i-am-a-thalidomide-monster-because-of-who-thalidomide-shame-non-compensation-thalidomide-victims-of-debt-driven-polit/</a></p>
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		<title>By: steph</title>
		<link>http://lilycollison.com/2010/01/22/thalidomide/comment-page-1/#comment-1694</link>
		<dc:creator>steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-voiced, Lily

The Irish government has not only failed to apologise, they&#039;ve reneged on the promises they made (back in the 1970&#039;s), that they would provide all the equipment necessary to help those suffering because of Thalidomide, to lead as normal a life as possible. 

Lily, I wrote about this back in 2008 and it&#039;s very sad to learn that the ITA is still fighting for justice...

http://biopsy.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/a-life-of-struggle/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-voiced, Lily</p>
<p>The Irish government has not only failed to apologise, they&#8217;ve reneged on the promises they made (back in the 1970&#8217;s), that they would provide all the equipment necessary to help those suffering because of Thalidomide, to lead as normal a life as possible. </p>
<p>Lily, I wrote about this back in 2008 and it&#8217;s very sad to learn that the ITA is still fighting for justice&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://biopsy.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/a-life-of-struggle/" rel="nofollow">http://biopsy.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/a-life-of-struggle/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
		<link>http://lilycollison.com/2010/01/22/thalidomide/comment-page-1/#comment-1692</link>
		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have followed Joe, all through his life so far.  He is one of the 32 Thalidomide cases you mention above.  He has outlived his parents and has no siblings.  Unlike Carmel Daly McDonnell, he is totally dependent on an elderly aunt and a cousin (who gave up their lives in England) to care for all his needs. Tall in stature with a lumbering gait, he is unable to speak making communication very difficult.  His frustration now manifests itself in aggression.  

He is somebody who really needs help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have followed Joe, all through his life so far.  He is one of the 32 Thalidomide cases you mention above.  He has outlived his parents and has no siblings.  Unlike Carmel Daly McDonnell, he is totally dependent on an elderly aunt and a cousin (who gave up their lives in England) to care for all his needs. Tall in stature with a lumbering gait, he is unable to speak making communication very difficult.  His frustration now manifests itself in aggression.  </p>
<p>He is somebody who really needs help.</p>
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